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KARIN : OUR INTERVIEWEE OF AUGUST 2002

       
       
   
    My name is Karin, I'm German, 37 years old and have lived in the Toulouse area for 5 years. I have had 2 little boys here and I am very happy with the whole experience. 
 
Was it difficult to be pregnant in France far from home and from your family?
Our phone bill was tremendous, I spoke to my mother or sisters almost every day during the last weeks before giving birth
   
Did you choose to be followed by a gynaecologist or by a mid-wife?
With the first one I saw a lady gynaecologist until the 8th month and then changed to see the obstetrician at the hospital. I am very comfortable with my gynaecologist and didn't like the obstetrician at the hospital very much. With the second one I changed much earlier to see the obstetrician at the hospital, this time I saw a lady, because I had an amniocentesis
 
Did you find a lot of differences between the French medical system and the German one?
From what I know about the German system from my sisters, the French system is about the same. I felt very well taken care of during both pregnancies.
 
Did you find an English speaking doctor and/or mid-wife? 
From I think they speak English at Joseph Ducuing, there were some English ladies there as well.
     
Could you tell us how you choose your maternity hospital or clinic? Did you visit some delivery rooms? Was there a unit for prem.?
I asked my gynaecologist and she suggested Ambrose Pare, because lots of  foreigners went there and because of the German doctor there. But I had been there a couple of times to visit people and I felt this clinic was was not for me. I was looking for a small hospital with a more personal atmosphere, because I thought if there is an emergency we would be transferred to Purpan anyway. 
We went to the open doors day at Joseph Ducuing (which lots of people refer to "Warsovie", because it is located in the rue Warsovie) and signed up straight away. 
The facilities are modern, lots of light, very friendly staff. It is the smallest maternity ward in Toulouse with only 15 rooms, with private bathrooms and facility to bath your baby in your room as well. They have 3 delivery rooms, 4 obstetricians of which 3 are ladies, and an anesthetist  24/24.
 
Did you follow the French programme " accouchement sans douleur" which is several courses about childbirth?
Yes I did. 6 evenings at the hospital, together with my husband. They offer sessions in the evenings and Saturday
 
Where did you deliver? How did you find the staff? Did the staff try to speak slowly to help you understand them?
At Hospital Joseph Ducuing, with very very friendly staff
I had the baby blues on the third day with the first baby and because my husband had to work and could only come over lunchtime and in the evenings there seemed to be always a nurse to come and talk to me and cheer me up. I had the impression that they really take an interest in the mothers and their circumstances. The fact that we weren't French made them even more helpful I think, they explained everything until all our questions were answered.
  
Could you narrate how you went into labour?
With the first baby I lost my waters in the afternoon and we went to the hospital at 9 o'clock at night. I had contractions but the dilatation process was very long. We got a room and spent the night there until I felt I couldn't continue anymore. 
When we called the midwife early in the morning we moved to the delivery room and 3 hours later I couldn't take it any longer and asked for the epidural. It had an almost immediate effect and I can only recommend it. I was glad I got it, because my first baby was 4.3 kg and the birth was long and still painful. I even got some oxygen and with the help of 2 midwifes finally made it. I felt very comfortable with them, in capable hand. At one moment the doctor wanted to intervene for a caesarian but they told him we would manage and I felt that that was ok.

With the second baby I started labour at midnight and had straight away strong regular contractions every 15 minutes. I stayed in bed until 5 when I woke my husband. The contractions came every 12 minutes so I told him we would have some time, thinking of the previous experience with my first baby. But with a very strong contractions my waters broke and the contractions came every 5 minutes. We woke up our first boy, dropped him off at the nanny at 6 o'clock in the morning,  half dressed and very surprised, were at the hospital at 6.25 am and the second baby was born at 6.35am. I thought I would give birth on the way and my husband already planned how to move the seats to have the most space. We went over red lights and left the car wrong way round in the one-way street in front of the hospital door. We didn't have the camera nor the baby clothes in the delivery room and my husband had to go get the bags after the baby was born.

          
Did you know you were waiting for a boy or a girl?
With both babies we didn't want to know beforehand. With the second one they could have told us for sure because I had an amniocentesis, but we didn't want to know.
        
Did your husband attend the delivery?
My husband was there with me, we cried together when the babies arrived and he cut the cord both times. He bathed them as well still in the delivery room and held them while I was looked after by the midwife.
         
How long did you stay at the hospital?
With the first one I had to stay 6 days, because the time between when the waters broke and giving birth was more than 12 hours. He was under supervision in case of an infection. I was desperate to get out of the hospital and go home, even with all the nice people there, I just wanted to go home and sleep in my own bed.
With the second one I could leave after 3 days. I wanted to get home as quickly as possible to establish a normal day again with our oldest boy.
 
Did you breastfeed your baby?
I fed the first one for 5 months and the second one for 8 months
 
How was your return at home?
What were the reactions of your both families? Did they come to see you during your pregnancy and after the delivery?
     
Were they sad that you delivered abroad?
Both families only saw our children 8 weeks after they were born. It is sad to be away during such a special time, but it can't be helped? 
 
  Did you sometimes find it difficult to be pregnant abroad , and in the Toulouse surroundings?
  I would have wanted to be closer to my family, but I had found friends with little children who had lived through the same experience. 
   
Did you sometimes find it difficult to be pregnant abroad , and in the Toulouse surroundings?
I would have wanted to be closer to my family, but I had found friends with little children who had lived through the same experience. 
   
   Why did you get an amniocentesis?
Because the blood test to check the probability for Down's Syndrome showed a higher level, we were told that it is advisable to get an amniocentesis for the second baby.
I had already almost lost the baby in the 11th week so I felt it was a pregnancy full of obstacles and I didn't allow myself to believe that we would have an other baby until the end of the 5th months.
The obstetrician at the hospital performed the amniocentesis in the operations theater and it was quite a scary experience.
I had never before been in an operations theater before. My husband could stay with me, which made everything a lot easier. I even got a room and had to wait to get checked out after an hour. But we had to deliver the bottle to the laboratory on the other side of town ourselves, because the services were overbooked. I could have never done this on my own.
We had to wait for 3 weeks for the result, which was the most difficult time in my life. In the end I still hadn't made a decision as to what to do in case the baby had Down's Syndrome. 
When we found out, that everything was fine, it felt like life started again from the beginning. 

Because I had had the amniocentesis at a hospital, all charges were paid by the CPAM. My English friend had hers done at a clinic and was not reimbursed. She was over 38 years old

In Germany amniocenteses are performed regularly in the offices of your gynaecologist. All my friends had had one, if they were older than 35 and if they wanted to have one if they were younger.
I think I wouldn't have kept such a dramatic impression of this experience had I had the amniocentesis in Germany.
The blood test to check the probability of Down's Syndrom is not offered to pregnant women in Germany, because doctors think the results are too misleading and looking back I can only confirm this. I didn't have the blood test with the first baby because when the doctor explained to me that the results are only 60% accurate, I felt this would only make me nervous. Even a negative result would have made me nervous because I could have been one of the 40% where the results were not correct.

After the problems with the second pregnancy in the 11th week I felt I wanted to do everything to make sure the baby will be all right. So I did the blood test, but I should have acted like the first time and saved myself so much agony. But now I look at my baby everyday and am grateful it is healthy and happy.

 
 

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